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nailz · Sep 01, 2005, 01:45 PM // 13:45

1) bringing oath shot into the UW is the worst idea ever unless you are soloing
2) necro/rangers make really really good trappers. Especially if they are willing to play a support trapper and bring BiP to regen the other rangers
3) bringing oth shot into the UW is the worst idea ever unless you are soloing
4) You don't need 8 trappers for UW runs...you need 3, maybe 4 tops
5) bringing oath shot into the UW is the worst idea ever unless you are soloing

Elena · Sep 01, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

*Ding* Quickening Zephyr + Energizing wind is what we used for quick trap recharge *Ding*

Morganas · Sep 01, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Oath shot is the only way you can do a 3 man trapper team in UW. There's no reason to do an 8 man if you can get along with 3, so oathshot is required for trapper teams.

salja Wachi · Sep 01, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by Morganas

He said he has 71 energy though...
joke of some sort?

Ignoring the oddities of the post, of course they kicked you. You need oath shot and whirling or lightening reflexes to be on an all trapper team. A non-ranger primary can't get that.

?????? do you even know what a trapping team does in UW?

they trap. no "oath" shot needed. nor whirling defense. all you need is 12 in WS for effective traps etc.

why is it tht people who have no clue think they need to post as if they do?

Theos · Sep 01, 2005, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Oath shot is the only way you can do a 3 man trapper team in UW. There's no reason to do an 8 man if you can get along with 3, so oathshot is required for trapper teams.

Damn I must have been doing my three/two man teams very very poorly. I mean we clear the whole thing but don't bring oath shot, wow we must be super lucky bastards. /sarcasm off

What the heck are you talking about? All you need is traps and some skill to not stand next to the aatxe without WD or such. Oath Shot is the worst idea for a skill to use in UW trapping I have ever heard.

Divinitys Creature · Sep 01, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

??? What does that mean?

LMAO = Laugh My Ass Off

10 chars = 10 characters, to get over the minimum number of characters limit to make a post FYI.

FYI = For Your Information.

salja Wachi · Sep 01, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Oath shot is the only way you can do a 3 man trapper team in UW. There's no reason to do an 8 man if you can get along with 3, so oathshot is required for trapper teams.

OK it is more than obvious you have no clue wtf you are talking about so it is time to ignore your ignorant posts.

i do 2-3 man trapping teams all the time and not one of us ever brings oath shot lmao.

if trapping is done right the only time you will ever need to even shoot your bow is to pull mobs, and even that is done most of the time by runing by then and not shooting.

please do us all a favor andlearn how to play before you post nonsensicle ideas here

nailz · Sep 01, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Oath shot is the only way you can do a 3 man trapper team in UW. There's no reason to do an 8 man if you can get along with 3, so oathshot is required for trapper teams.

I've done three and two man teams without oathshot. Like Elena said you need QZ and EW..bringing oath shot would be about the stupidest thing you could possibly do.

ElderAtronach · Sep 01, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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10 chars = 10 characters, to get over the minimum number of characters limit to make a post FYI.

It's 5 chars. The error msg is:

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Shinsei · Sep 01, 2005, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Oath Shot might be dumb, but anything's smarter than his energy storage Necro primary

salja Wachi · Sep 01, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by Shinsei

Oath Shot might be dumb, but anything's smarter than his energy storage Necro primary

why is anything smarter tahn that? a ranger secondary is just fine in UW trapping runs.

and if he uses BiP as his elite everyone can lay down many more traps in a shorter amount of time.

i do not understand why you are all so closed minded and ifnorant of things

nailz · Sep 01, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by Shinsei

Oath Shot might be dumb, but anything's smarter than his energy storage Necro primary

expertise works great for rangers because they have a smaller energy pool than caster classes. The necro doesn't need expertise with almost 80 energy. Couple that with BiP and the necro primary makes a GREAT addition to a trapping team. His primary role is to energize the trappers but can add to the primary focus of the group by laying down traps himself. Open your eyes.

Sep 01, 2005, 04:41 PM // 16:41

He's saying Oath Shot because OS+anything except Spike Trap is better than trying to do it with QZ. Even worse is stacking QZ and EW which leads me to believe your not really trying hard anyway.

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Originally Posted by nailz

expertise works great for rangers because they have a smaller energy pool than caster classes. The necro doesn't need expertise with almost 80 energy. Couple that with BiP and the necro primary makes a GREAT addition to a trapping team. His primary role is to energize the trappers but can add to the primary focus of the group by laying down traps himself. Open your eyes.

Where are you getting 80 energy from? And also, why does it have to be a primary necro? A secondary necro with Ranger primary expertise and a 5 pip Bip on Rangers who also have high expertise is better than a necro primary running 13 blood...

also, Expertise works great because it's a straight linear reduction on anything except spells, not because Rangers have a smaller energy pool than casters.

nailz · Sep 01, 2005, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by Blackace

He's saying Oath Shot because OS+anything except Spike Trap is better than trying to do it with QZ. Even worse is stacking QZ and EW which leads me to believe your not really trying hard anyway.

Where are you getting 80 energy from? And also, why does it have to be a primary necro? A secondary necro with Ranger primary expertise and a 5 pip Bip on Rangers who also have high expertise is better than a necro primary running 13 blood...

also, Expertise works great because it's a straight linear reduction on anything except spells, not because Rangers have a smaller energy pool than casters.

he claimed he had 79 energy(or atleast I read that somewhere on the first page)...Ranger/necro would obviously make a better combination because of the added benefit of expertise. But a necro can make due with trapping on his high energy pool just fine.

Oath Shot is going to aggro...what would be the purpose of aggroign before you get the traps down? My Ranger UW Solo build uses Oath Shot...but for obvious reasons. I can't see the benefit of Oath Shot with a trapping team.

Sep 01, 2005, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Oh ok, I see what your saying now. I thought this was a team that like, once they engaged just used WD/Traps and oath shot would be better. But if you dont wanna pull I see where the QZ comes in, but no reason for EW.

nailz · Sep 01, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Blackace

Oh ok, I see what your saying now. I thought this was a team that like, once they engaged just used WD/Traps and oath shot would be better. But if you dont wanna pull I see where the QZ comes in, but no reason for EW.

ya. I use a combination of Oath Shot + Whirling Defense + Throw Dirt for my solo build and Oath Shot is SUPER important in that build.

Energizing Winds offsets the price you have to pay to use Quickening Zephyr. QZ increases the energy cost by 30% for every skill.

salja Wachi · Sep 01, 2005, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by Blackace

Oh ok, I see what your saying now. I thought this was a team that like, once they engaged just used WD/Traps and oath shot would be better. But if you dont wanna pull I see where the QZ comes in, but no reason for EW.

exactly the last thing you want to do is have to fight the mobs. you trap first then if you are good and aggro coprrectly there will be no need to use your bow at all.

trelloskilos · Sep 01, 2005, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Oath shot is the only way you can do a 3 man trapper team in UW. There's no reason to do an 8 man if you can get along with 3, so oathshot is required for trapper teams.

I know about 50 UW trappers who would STRONGLY disagree with you there.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=48719

Shinsei · Sep 01, 2005, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

why is anything smarter tahn that? a ranger secondary is just fine in UW trapping runs.

and if he uses BiP as his elite everyone can lay down many more traps in a shorter amount of time.

i do not understand why you are all so closed minded and ifnorant of things

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Originally Posted by nailz

expertise works great for rangers because they have a smaller energy pool than caster classes. The necro doesn't need expertise with almost 80 energy. Couple that with BiP and the necro primary makes a GREAT addition to a trapping team. His primary role is to energize the trappers but can add to the primary focus of the group by laying down traps himself. Open your eyes.

Keyword here people: Energy Storage

i do not understand why you are all so close minded and ifnorant of things. Open your eyes.

Sandman Uk · Sep 01, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

LoL I was just trying to point out what had happened regarding being kicked (See origanal post). I think it was funny.

Builds Builds Builds, Im very happy with my build and for a necro/Ranger to be able to take on two Atax's on his own and come out on top is a good build for me. Never had a complaint from any teams ive been it.

Better keep quiet before they nerf my build